Episode 557 - Survival in the Andes I

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

So I hope that for today's episode, are we ready?

MARCUS PARKS

We're ready. And I'm ready to hear your hopes.

ED LARSON

I'm sitting here.

MARCUS PARKS

Your dreams.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

I hope because I know what I did today was that I kissed my puppies.

ED LARSON

Okay.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

I had a big hot plate of food. And I turned up the heat. I made it 85 degrees in there.

ED LARSON

Yeah.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

Just so that I could... Because this story, it freaks me out.

MARCUS PARKS

I'd imagine.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

It really freaks me out and I just hope the audience is hungry.

ED LARSON

Yeah, I was watching Alive and I literally ordered Postmates and I felt so guilty.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

Yeah, how easy it was? Can you imagine the different tone of the movie if it was Alive! with an exclamation point like Fame!.

ED LARSON

Yeah.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

Alive!

MARCUS PARKS

Welcome to the Last Podcast on the Left, ladies and gentlemen. My name is Marcus Parks, I'm here with Henry Zabowski.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

I'm alive!

MARCUS PARKS

And Ed Larson.

ED LARSON

Partially alive.

MARCUS PARKS

Reasonably alive.

ED LARSON

And unreasonably warm to do this episode.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

Yeah man, pop your shirt off, we'll get some ice in here.

ED LARSON

Oh my god.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

Rob, let's get some buckets of ice. We can just pour it around that little place because things are about to get a little chilly.

MARCUS PARKS

Oh yeah boys, we're talking about the cold because today we are talking about survival in the Andes, the story of the Uruguayan rugby team.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

I'm alive! And it's rugby, not soccer, no matter what all of our childhood cartoons try to tell us.

ED LARSON

Yeah. I could have sworn it was soccer.

MARCUS PARKS

Yeah, I think this might be another Mandela effect thing.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

Yes.

ED LARSON

Yeah.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

Called just being wrong?

MARCUS PARKS

It's called being wrong.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

Never looking it up, never correcting yourself.

MARCUS PARKS

It's called one Simpsons writer remembering a movie wrong.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

Sure.

MARCUS PARKS

Well best known from the 1993 movie-

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

Alive!

MARCUS PARKS

The story of the Uruguayan rugby team who spent 72 days in the unforgiving heights of the Andes Mountains is one of the most harrowing tales of survival on record.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

Can I... All right. So when we talked about with the Donner party where you went from oh no, is my shoe untied? to oh holy shit, there's a spider in my colostomy bag. What level of stress would you put this compared to the Donner party? I put this maybe only because of length of time spent surviving, it's like close to number two.

MARCUS PARKS

Yeah.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

Because when we covered the USS Indianapolis, that was just three days.

MARCUS PARKS

Very concentrated horror because you had constant sharks.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

All at once, right, a bunch of fucked up shit all happened at once. Same thing when we did the Essex. A lot of shit happened at once. Yes, they did turn out long. But I don't know, there's something about this, I don't know why, because cold vs hot.

MARCUS PARKS

Yeah.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

I'd much rather be hot than cold.

ED LARSON

I'd go either way. Cold's good. I like it. I run hot so it'd help me sleep.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

Yeah I know, I'd just sleep so nice.

MARCUS PARKS

And I run cold so I'm not going to do well at all.

ED LARSON

Yeah.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

It'd be hell on earth. But what do you think?

MARCUS PARKS

Which one would I rather do Essex or Alive?

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

Well just in terms of like-

ED LARSON

I'd much rather do Alive than Essex.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

Worst survival story.

MARCUS PARKS

Worst survival story-

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

Either covered or we could cover.

MARCUS PARKS

I believe that this is up there, probably number two. The way that they describe the cold is one of the most I would say scariest things that I've ever read. Because I think the plane crash itself, all right. But the cold and cold for the length of time that they had to endure it, that I think would be the worst for me.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

You're fine with the airplane crash.

ED LARSON

I'm fine with the airplane crash and I'm honestly-

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

You're fine with the airplane crash.

ED LARSON

It happens. What are you gonna do? It's out of my control,

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

It happens? It fucking happens?!

ED LARSON

Especially in the Andes with a fucking shitty ass plane!

MARCUS PARKS

Well the basic facts-

ED LARSON

Wait, before we get too far, I have to ask the hacky question. Who's most delicious?

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

We'll get there, we'll get there.

MARCUS PARKS

We'll get there, we'll get there.

ED LARSON

Certainly not you, I'll tell you that.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

No, it's not.

ED LARSON

Not Marcus.

MARCUS PARKS

Out of the three of us?

ED LARSON

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

MARCUS PARKS

Oh no, I'm absolutely the most delicious. I'm the leanest meat.

ED LARSON

No, no, you're chewing gum dressed as a man.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

Let's move on, uwe're gonna pick this back up. You're all incorrect, we'll pick this back up.

MARCUS PARKS

Well basic facts that on October 12th, 1972, a Fairchild FH-227 left on a charter flight from the South American country of Uruguay with 45 souls aboard. Their destination was an exhibition rugby match in Santiago, Chile, which meant crossing one of the largest mountain ranges in the world. But while the purpose of the flight was a rugby game, the majority of the passengers on board were not on the team.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

It's like they were trying to travel, go play a rugby game, but instead all they found was nothing but trouble.

MARCUS PARKS

Nothing but trouble.

ED LARSON

Nothing but trouble. Yeah, nothing but trouble. Yeah.

MARCUS PARKS

Good.

ED LARSON

It's bad. Also for flying to an exhibition game? Just practice at home.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

It's a long story.

MARCUS PARKS

It's a long story, I didn't wanna get into like the full story of...

ED LARSON

Sorry, sorry.

MARCUS PARKS

Well it's an exhibition game but they're the best fucking rugby team in all of Uuruguay so they go and play exhibition games against other countries. Well only 15 of the passengers were players while the rest were friends, family, or people who hopped on the charter flight last minute for a cheap ride to Chile. But as we all know, the plane never made it to its destination.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

What?

MARCUS PARKS

16 of the 45 people who crashed in the Andes would leave the mountains alive. Although I hesitate to say only 16 when I talk about the number of survivors.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

Talk about the number to the top 16 people-

ED LARSON

Yeah.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

That you want on any one of your teams ever. Like these guys are, talk about survivors.

MARCUS PARKS

Yeah.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

Because they put the fucking-

ED LARSON

It does make them the best rugby team of all time.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

It does, I believe.

ED LARSON

Yeah.

MARCUS PARKS

Well put simply, it's an absolute miracle that anyone survived even the crash, much less what came after. These people spent nearly 2.5 months-

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

Months!

ED LARSON

Months.

MARCUS PARKS

Yes, months. They spent nearly 2.5 months near the top of one of the most unforgiving mountain ranges in the world. And the only certainty they had as far as their location went was that they were in the Andes and they were in South America.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

And we're not talking about the Richters, because if you were inside of an Andy Richter, it'd be super warm in there.

ED LARSON

Yeah, and you'd be able to eat a lot more.

MARCUS PARKS

But since this was to be a short flight, relatively so, there was little food. And since the plane was colored white as most planes are, there was little to no hope that rescue planes would spot them. Therefore the survivors were infamously forced to eat the dead to sustain themselves throughout their ordeal.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

(metal guitar riff)

MARCUS PARKS

I know, just anytime I say eat the dead.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

Eat the dead.

MARCUS PARKS

Yeah, I mean I feel like I'm doing a trailer for like a 1977 fucking horror movie.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

But these guys did it right, they did it classy.

MARCUS PARKS

Yeah, they did it very classy.

ED LARSON

Yeah.

MARCUS PARKS

It is however important to make a distinction here. What these people engaged in was not technically cannibalism, as cannibalism has a ritualistic element to it and usually involves murder.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

Yeah, you sick fucks! How fucking dare you?

MARCUS PARKS

Rather these men engaged in what's known as anthropophagy, which is the simple consummation of human flesh.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

It's simple, that's it!

MARCUS PARKS

Yeah, it's just eating human flesh. You don't kill anybody, it's not a part of a whole thing. You just eat it.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

Does Carolina shop at Anthropophagie?

ED LARSON

I heard Ethan Hawke prepared for the role by eating his girlfriend's ass.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

Yeah! White as hell in this is very, very Hispanic environment.

MARCUS PARKS

My god, we were watching Alive the other day and it's like if the cast members aren't white, they're Italian.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

Hey, that's not white.

MARCUS PARKS

Yeah.

ED LARSON

Italy is the South America of Europe.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

That's controversial.

MARCUS PARKS

But that's why we can say that members of the Donner party were cannibals because some of them did kill in order to survive.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

That's what ticks Donner party to the number one slot-

MARCUS PARKS

Yeah.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

Is the actual like human machinations against each other and the group get divided. But meanwhile this story is about truly the power of the human spirit.

MARCUS PARKS

Yeah.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

But that was fueled by human meat.

ED LARSON

Isn't the Donner party, correct me if I'm wrong, like they got in trouble because they were kind of stupid?

MARCUS PARKS

Yeah, yeah.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

They definitely tried to take a shortcut.

ED LARSON

But these guys, this is totally an accident.

MARCUS PARKS

Absolutely. Well it is because one person was stupid.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

Yes.

ED LARSON

Yes.

MARCUS PARKS

But the rest of them are completely blameless.

ED LARSON

Yeah.

MARCUS PARKS

But concerning the survivors, one of the biggest factors when it came to how they survived was the fact that they were already a team.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

Yeah!

MARCUS PARKS

And a rugby team at that.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

Yeah! Grabbing and tussling. Big, thick ball. They got a big ball. That's gotta be fun.

MARCUS PARKS

Yeah.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

I'm not playing rugby.

MARCUS PARKS

No.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

I bruise easy.

ED LARSON

I would love to play, I'm so sad I missed that train.

MARCUS PARKS

I know, me too.

ED LARSON

I much would rather have done that than football.

MARCUS PARKS

Rugby over football? Yeah, we used to play, that's the funny thing, we used to play a form of rugby when I was a kid but we called it caveman football. Man, people got so hurt.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

Yeah, I bet.

ED LARSON

Was it like 7 on 7 or something?

MARCUS PARKS

Yeah. It was just fucking ripping into kids as hard as you could.

ED LARSON

They also get less concussions because they don't wear helmets and they don't have to hit each other's heads.

MARCUS PARKS

Yep.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

Yep.

ED LARSON

Fucking rugby.

MARCUS PARKS

Well that's all to say that these guys-

ED LARSON

Much of scrumbags.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

Cute. That's good merch. That's good rugby merch. If we had a rugby team, that'd be incredible.

MARCUS PARKS

But that's all to say that these guys were in competition shape, they knew how to work together, and at least the team were all between the ages of 18-26, they were young dudes.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

Tight.

MARCUS PARKS

But since these were young men, they acted like it, meaning they were sometimes petulant, annoying, and selfish in addition to being incredibly fucking heroic.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

I think it's one of those beautiful/devastating things that like Nando talked a little bit about this in one of the documentaries, about how like they all talk about like a lot of people say if they were in this situation, they don't know if they could do it. And Nando was kind of saying the same thing being like you would never know-

MARCUS PARKS

Yeah.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

If you could do it or not unless you're put in this situation. And there was something about them just being boys that saved them. Because for some reason it wasn't as devastating. They literally just got up every day and came up with new plans and did new shit and they were constantly on the move. It sounded exhausting.

ED LARSON

I'd much rather do it with strangers and watch my friends die.

MARCUS PARKS

But the strangers aren't going to work together. I mean you see LOST? It took them forever and they were on an island full of food.

ED LARSON

That's true.

MARCUS PARKS

Yeah.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

Did you ever see the show Survivor where the one guy got naked all the time?

ED LARSON

Talk about eating meat.

MARCUS PARKS

And yes, I know I got the numbers wrong on the last Side Stories. It's 4-8, 15-16, 23-42. I know that I know that. Now it bothered me for days.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

Rob is throwing a fist in the air, apparently he was a part of the throng of people attacking us.

MARCUS PARKS

I didn't even hear of a throng, I just came off of the episode and I went fuck!

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

Fuck!

MARCUS PARKS

It's 4-8, not 9-10. But because they were young kids, that also meant they could be fucking playful, they joked around, they were even cheerful at times if only to ease the burden of the situation. They were also jocks and they came from well to do families, not all of them but a lot of them. But all that's to say that these people were very human and this is a story of human survival at its absolute peak, if you'll excuse the pun.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

Thank you.

ED LARSON

I will not, I love it.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

That was like when Natalie and I went into a Twin Peaks restaurant thinking it was the David Lynch theme but it was just about tits.

ED LARSON

Oh my god. I'll have the pancakes, please.

MARCUS PARKS

But since there were a fair amount of survivors, the story is well known and well told, and those who talk about it are often brutally honest about what they and others did during those 72 days.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

I do think that this is also one of the very rare occurrences where the Big Hollywood movie was actually pretty spot on when it came to the events that kind of happened in sequence.

MARCUS PARKS

Yeah.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

Like obviously the characterizations, they make it up for dramatic effect. But there are certain things that you watch them do where like they knew a lot about what actually went down.

MARCUS PARKS

Yeah. Now we of course used 'Alive' by Piers Paul Read-

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

Alive!

MARCUS PARKS

As our main source of this series. But the world is also fortunate enough to have two books from the two men who eventually got everyone rescued. Those books are 'Miracle In The Andes' by Nando Parrado and 'I Had To Survive'-

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

I had to survive!

MARCUS PARKS

By Roberto Canessa. Out of the two, Nando's is the higher recommendation because Canessa spends quite a few pages writing about his career as a highly successful pediatric cardiologist.

ED LARSON

I love to look at kids.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

I like to open them up, I like to get down in their ribcage. That's my favorite part of the job is seeing them hovering between life and death. It's kind of honestly, his book kind of sounds like the movie that they wanted to make about Freddie Mercury and Queen, that what's his name wanted to make, the guitar player.

MARCUS PARKS

Oh, Brian May?

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

Brian May wanted the movie or the original script apparently had Freddie Mercury die in the first quarter of the film and the rest was the resilience of the rest of Queen. It's like sorry buddy.

MARCUS PARKS

Yeah.

ED LARSON

We call up the guy from Bad Company and talk him into a singing with us.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

It was easy.

MARCUS PARKS

And so without further ado, let's get into the story of the Old Christian Rugby Club and how they managed to survive the Andes Mountains.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

(bird cawing)

MARCUS PARKS

There was no birds up there.

ED LARSON

Yeah, there was no birds.

MARCUS PARKS

It was fucking barren wilderness.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

Sorry. Whatever.

ED LARSON

Yeah, at least they didn't get attacked by wolves.

MARCUS PARKS

At least. Or birds.

ED LARSON

Yeah.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

But the they would have had something to eat.

ED LARSON

If the wolf came?

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

Yeah.

ED LARSON

Yeah, it would have been nice, you're right.

MARCUS PARKS

Okay. All taken back.

ED LARSON

Yeah, yeah. I like dogs.

MARCUS PARKS

Now while it may seem like it wouldn't be a large distinction, the fact that these guys were a rugby team as opposed to say a soccer team does have some bearing on how they were able to work together to survive.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

The survivors definitely said that.

MARCUS PARKS

Yeah. The Old Christian team, the best in Uruguay, was established by two Irish Catholic missionaries called the Christian Brothers who discouraged soccer in their school because they believed it promoted selfishness and egotism.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

Yeah, it made the women too horny.

ED LARSON

Use your hands already, you fucking idiots.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

Whatever, man. Soccer guys get enough.

MARCUS PARKS

Therefore they pushed their students towards rugby which taught self-discipline, devotion, sacrifice, trust, tenacity, and toughness.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

Yeah.

MARCUS PARKS

In other words, the principles and methods you learn in rugby are far more useful in a survival situation than say rolling around on the ground pretending that you're hurt.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

Yeah! Fuck yeah, shots fired! Coming for you, soccer.

ED LARSON

You fucking idiots.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

Because a lot of rugby really is like guys operating as a group.

MARCUS PARKS

Oh yeah.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

There's a lot of the big scrums.

ED LARSON

Yeah.

MARCUS PARKS

Well they also say like there's also a term of a man becoming grass. Like if a guy falls down, he's grass. But it becomes the job of the other players to sacrifice yourself to protect the guy who's falling down.

ED LARSON

Yeah. And you like push guys and lift them. You almost carry the dude and the ball to the fucking end zone.

MARCUS PARKS

Yeah.

ED LARSON

I don't know what they call it but I call it an end zone.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

It's basically an end zone.

MARCUS PARKS

For lack of a better word.

ED LARSON

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

MARCUS PARKS

Well as Nando Parrado later put it, their rugby training was a big part of why they survived, especially when you consider that a lot of these guys had been playing on the same team for nearly a decade at the time of the crash. But in 1972, all of these guys were out of school and the team included guys who are relatively new. Now the flight had been chartered from the Uruguayan Air Force but the plane used for the flight was not what you'd call up to Air Force standards.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

So why was it there?

ED LARSON

Because it's used to transfer rugby teams.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

I guess you just decide you'll keep it instead of throwing it out.

MARCUS PARKS

Well they bought it from the United States government.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

You're welcome, Uruguay.

MARCUS PARKS

The team, their guests, and a few strangers had taken off in a Fairchild FH-227. And it was called in a couple of documentaries, it was called the lead sled.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

Not my favorite nickname for the plane I'm about to be on. Might as well be called the bobbing for body parts. You'd be like oh great.

MARCUS PARKS

Well out of the 78 Fairchild 227s built, 23 of them crashed.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

I just feel like we gotta look at it.

ED LARSON

Yeah. Was it flown by Harrison Ford?

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

Yeah. I gotta get back to Calista.

MARCUS PARKS

And it wasn't even like they crashed and they're like oh fuck, we should probably take these out of circulation. 23 of them crashed between 1960-2002.

ED LARSON

Oh my god.

MARCUS PARKS

Yeah.

ED LARSON

They didn't stop using these freaking things?

MARCUS PARKS

Killed almost 400 people.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

Jesus fucking Christ.

ED LARSON

Jesus Christ!

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

I just don't know what, I guess what do they get out of it? I guess if you've already paid for it, they're just gonna let them go until they explode?

MARCUS PARKS

I suppose so. I mean I think just some people take what they can get. And flying used to be a lot more dangerous than it is now.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

Yes.

MARCUS PARKS

So much more dangerous than it is now. But the plane's safety record was only half of the equation here. While the pilot had flown the dangerous route through the Andes 29 times, the copilot was relatively inexperienced. In the end I'd say it was like an 80/20 split between pilot air and a shitty plane that resulted in the crash.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

Yes.

MARCUS PARKS

Now flying through the Andes is dangerous no matter what but it's more dangerous if you fly at the wrong time. That's because the air from the warm Argentinian planes mixes with the cold air of the Andes, creating incredible turbulence. If a plane got caught in a particularly bad pocket, they could easily lose control and crash into the side of a mountain.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

I did a little bit of research into plane crashes in general, which is bad for me, right.

ED LARSON

I can't believe you're actually scared of flights.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

It's just anything.

ED LARSON

They don't crash in America anymore.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

You're just killing hundreds of people. This is a great episode for the travel season by the way.

MARCUS PARKS

Yeah. Yeah, I'm about to get on a plane like six days from now.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

Soon, yeah. But wow. Because normally if you have-

ED LARSON

Are you taking Delta?

MARCUS PARKS

Yeah.

ED LARSON

Then you're fine.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

Most of the time.

ED LARSON

They're not gonna wanna pay out, you're not gonna die.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

You're not gonna die. Knock on the table again.

ED LARSON

Yeah.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

Knock on the fucking table again. All right? I don't care how Italian this is. But apparently rom what I'm reading, the main issue, because I've now read three different testimonies that talked about what you really want to look for, which it's not the up and down turbulence and it's not the side to side turbulence. It is a slow vibration that begins to increase in its strength.

ED LARSON

Oh okay.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

That is how you know you're about to die in an airplane.

ED LARSON

The straight down too is usually...

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

Yeah, it's the pilot running out with the other pilot's severed head in his hands.

ED LARSON

Yeah, yeah, yeah. With a parachute on.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

Yeah. Bye bye! Taking my friend Wilson with me!

MARCUS PARKS

Well the dangerous nature flying through the Andes was a fact well known to the pilots because once the charter flight got to the point where they had to decide whether or not to cross the Andes, they landed in the Argentinian city of Mendoza to wait out the unfavorable conditions. The team and everyone else on board however wanted their full five days in Santiago.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

This is the problem with being young.

MARCUS PARKS

Yeah.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

This is the main issue with being young. Because if you had landed it before we got to the mountains and everyone's gonna be like oh I don't know if we're gonna make it over and they're all talking about this. I would have been like let's stay here. Especially as a 39 year old man with a lot to lose.

MARCUS PARKS

Yeah.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

I'd be like let's just stay right here. Okay?

MARCUS PARKS

Yeah.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

We don't go over there. Because you're not 18, you're like yeah man, fucking cool, bounces are cool.

ED LARSON

Yeah.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

It's like no it's not, dog. It's scary as fuck.

MARCUS PARKS

Wow.

ED LARSON

Yeah, he just knows a chick over there or something.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

Yeah, just being like she could die next week.

MARCUS PARKS

Actually that's exactly what it was.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

Yeah!

MARCUS PARKS

There were a couple of dudes like man, I got some sweet Chilean tail on the other side of those mountains.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

No you don't, bro! I've seen the movie, dude! You're not alive in it!

MARCUS PARKS

So after spending a night in Mendoza, the impatient and determined passengers were called back to the airport. There they discovered that the pilots still weren't sure whether or not it was safe to fly. Additionally, Argentinian law forbade international military craft from resting in their country for more than 24 hours. So the choice was to risk the Andes or go back to Uruguay.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

Well instead what you do is you ask for forgiveness because if your troops are bordering another person's country, they send you a warning. And you're gonna say just passing through, that's also a good way to lie because then you start attacking a super vulnerable city.

MARCUS PARKS

Wow. You're thinking about Civilization VI again, aren't you? But after a cargo pilot who'd just flown in from Santiago told them that conditions were fine and after a lot of pressure from the passengers, the pilots decided to go for it.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

You know what? I think this is a bad idea and I'm completely in charge but fuck it. Literally they had to be like you know what? Fuck it. I'm horny too. Yeah, buddy. Can I watch you fuck? Can I watch you fuck? Wow, Captain Harrison's fun.

MARCUS PARKS

And so everyone boarded only slightly concerned that it just happened to be Friday the 13th.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

(hums Friday the 13th theme)

MARCUS PARKS

The problem though was that since they'd spent so much time hemming and hawing, the plane took off at 2 pm. This meant that the plane would be entering the Andes during the afternoon which was the exact time that the aforementioned winds created the worst turbulence. Additionally the Fairchild couldn't handle flying the direct east to west route over the mountains because its maximum cruising altitude was lower than the highest summits, which sat at 22,831 ft above sea level.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

That'll be a thing that you want to communicate to a couple of pilots.

MARCUS PARKS

Yeah. No, no, they knew what they were doing.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

They didn't know.

MARCUS PARKS

No, they knew.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

They knew.

ED LARSON

But like if they knew, they'd still be alive.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

They might.

ED LARSON

Or maybe not.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

Alive!

MARCUS PARKS

Well the pilots charted a path south to the Planchón Pass where they could fly through the mountains before turning north to Santiago once they reached the town of Curico on the other side. But even so the flight was only supposed to take an hour and a half. But for reasons that are still unclear, the pilot made the fateful decision to turn north in the middle of the mountain range as opposed to waiting until they were flying over Chile.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

We couldn't really find any reason why.

MARCUS PARKS

No one knows.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

Yeah.

MARCUS PARKS

Additionally, the pilot mysteriously radioed air traffic control and told them that they'd flown over the town of Curico long before they would have done so.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

Sidestorieslpotl@gmail.com. I know we have a lot of pilot listeners because I have heard of about this. The getting lost in the air sounds terrifying.

MARCUS PARKS

It's awful, yeah.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

And this is before we had true like modern instruments inside of the plane, I believe, like they're not digitally connected. There's no GPS ping.

ED LARSON

No drum machine.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

Yeah, none of that. No, no sauna room. No cold plunge.

MARCUS PARKS

This is like 10 years before the 808 is out. No fucking heavy bass.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

So it's like all of this. So I believe you have to do it the old fashioned way. I believe it's by speed, angle with the maps, and you point to where you're supposed to hit at certain time periods. And it sounds like, and please email sidestorieslpotl@gmail.com if you know like what would that take to get lost like that? Because I know it's just visual. Sometimes you could just look up and you think you're going one way but if the plane's been kind of slightly pointed in the wrong direction going a couple of 100 MPH and then you're in a vastly different spot but you didn't know because maybe you weren't fully involved. Or like it sounded like the plane was kind of distracting.

MARCUS PARKS

Yeah.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

Like people were and screaming and shit. And the kids were like doing horseplay.

MARCUS PARKS

Yeah, there was a lot of horseplay. But if you're a pilot, you need to be able to overcome horseplay.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

Settle down back there!

ED LARSON

Is there a door between them and the-

MARCUS PARKS

Yeah.

ED LARSON

So it should be fine.

MARCUS PARKS

Yeah, it's a regular plane. It's a charter plane. Yeah. It was owned by the military but it's a regular ass plane. Well air traffic control, therefore once the pilot said hey, we're over this town, they told the pilot to lower their elevation from 18,000 ft to 10,000. And that's where the turbulence began. Now it was light at first, expected even. But once the Fairchild entered a cloud bank, the turbulence became unbearable. The plane rumbled and shook, dropping hundreds of feet at a time. But since the rugby team was basically a bunch of shithead kids, one of the players in the back of the plane grabbed the flight attendant's microphone and told everyone to put on their parachutes because they were about to crash in the Andes.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

Hey man, love that guy.

ED LARSON

Yeah.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

Got to.

MARCUS PARKS

Joke bombed.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

Yeah.

MARCUS PARKS

Nobody liked it.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

Yeah. Been there.

ED LARSON

You gotta take a swing. I got no problem with this.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

This is my one function in this group.

ED LARSON

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

You know I'm the funny one on the sports team because I'm not very good. But you guys like me around.

MARCUS PARKS

Yeah. If you had a shot at this joke, what would you say?

ED LARSON

Everyone, put your... I'd steal what's his name's joke. The great comedian, Redd Foxx. You put your legs between your head and kiss your ass goodbye.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

Yeah.

MARCUS PARKS

Yeah. Now the joke bombed, as I said, but the team still wasn't taking the situation seriously. They tossed a rugby ball around the cabin, they did a bit of the Olé Olé Olé cheer. And because the plane was so up and down, up and down, they started chanting conga, conga, conga.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

Conga, conga, conga!

MARCUS PARKS

Which is fun.

ED LARSON

Yeah.

MARCUS PARKS

But-

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

Not when everybody dies.

MARCUS PARKS

Inappropriate.

ED LARSON

It's inappropriate but it's much better than screaming and jerking off.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

(screaming) Because nothing is worse. Have you ever been like that on a plane where you've had like a dip and someone goes ah! Like screams real hard?

ED LARSON

I recently had the woman next to me was like having panic attacks the entire flight and I literally had to hold her hand for a while.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

No.

MARCUS PARKS

Yeah.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

Yeah, then you're just like shut up.

ED LARSON

Yeah. You're just like it's fine, lady. Don't worry about it. I said the same thing to her, I'm like Delta will not let us die because they won't pay the money.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

They don't wanna be sued. They don't wanna pay our families.

MARCUS PARKS

Suddenly though the plane emerged from the clouds and everyone expected to see the verdant green valleys of Chile. Instead, passengers looked out their windows to see a snow- covered mountain not 10 ft from the tip of their wing, as the plane kept bouncing.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

And it felt sort of like the bit that we did from bees in Murderfest where it really feels like the guys were looking out being like huh, we supposed to be that close to the mountaintop?

MARCUS PARKS

Yeah.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

And then blam!

MARCUS PARKS

No, that's it. People were like turning to each other like hey, is this normal? And they're like no, it's not. Now the pilots were up front trying to take control but the turbulence and the periodic drops in altitude along with the fact that they were now flying in the mountains was too much for them to handle.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

Yeah man, this ain't the fucking Death Star run.

MARCUS PARKS

Finally as everyone started praying, they felt the plane vibrate as the pilots desperately tried to pull up. They'd seen a pass far too narrow for the plane to clear. And with a deafening crash, the right wing hit the mountain, broke off, somersaulted over the fuselage, and completely cut off the tail.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

Yeah, the plane just like fell apart in midair.

MARCUS PARKS

Immediately the flight attendant, the navigator, and three members of the rugby team, including the one who made the joke, were sucked out of the back and fell to their deaths.

ED LARSON

Karma.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

The funny one always dies early.

ED LARSON

That's right.

MARCUS PARKS

Seconds later, the left wing also broke off along with its propeller which sliced the leg off of one of the passengers on its way through.

ED LARSON

God.

MARCUS PARKS

All that was left now was the fuselage which had become in essence a bullet hurtling towards the Andes Mountains at an estimated 230 MPH.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

This is probably where the lead sled part of it really kind of helped because it shot over the mountain, they all talk about it too. It's like there was this moment in time of like they're now flying with just air shooting all over them, around them, strapped in. And they're all like some of them have enough wherewithal to if they weren't strapped in already, it was just somehow just being sitting in the front of the plane where they were okay because it ripped off the back half first.

ED LARSON

Yeah.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

And so they buckled up and they just watched it in total silence until it hits the fucking mountainside that just sleds like you'e fucking, what's it, from the fucking Rescue Rangers.

ED LARSON

TaleSpin.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

TaleSpin.

ED LARSON

Please.

MARCUS PARKS

But in an extraordinary piece of luck, the fuselage did not spin nor did it crash into a cliff face. Instead it landed on its belly in a steep valley at just the right angle where it didn't tumble end over end. Because if it would have done that, the whole thing would have just fucking-

ED LARSON

Oh yeah, over.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

Killed everybody.

MARCUS PARKS

Everyone's dead. But two more players were sucked out of the back when the fuselage hit the ground. But after it tobogganed 400 yards down the valley at 125 MPH, it finally came to a stop when it crashed into a snow berm.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

What's a berm?

MARCUS PARKS

I think it's a pile.

ED LARSON

Like at Disneyland, they have a berm that's like what keeps you from seeing the outside world. It's like big, almost like a sand dune that keeps everything inside.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

Oh wow. Yeah, the linear accumulation of a snow cast aside by a plow.

MARCUS PARKS

Nice. But the force of the impact ripped the seats loose and crushed the passengers in the front like a folding accordion, killing four almost instantly. The crash was over but the ordeal was just beginning.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

Now this is where you read a lot about for plane crash survivors. It's just gotta be harrowing. I don't know if you've ever seen that Werner Herzog documentary talking about the woman who fell from the plane-

MARCUS PARKS

No.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

In her seat, she fell from something like 10,000 ft and she survived, like she managed to get caught in this tree, she like lived in her seat. It's fucked. And then she saw, like she looked around, she saw other people that were stuck in the ground feet up like literally like fucking javelins.

ED LARSON

Jesus.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

It's a crazy documentary. But they all say, everything I read was all about the silence after a plane crash is insane.

MARCUS PARKS

Yeah.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

Where you're just like what? Because you just went from 20,000 ft in the air, you're just like on the ground and you're a lot like... Because it's weird. A lot of these guys were like not hurt at all.

MARCUS PARKS

Yeah. Now once the passengers inside started getting some semblance of a bearing, they saw that the cabin was covered in blood. They looked forward to the seats that had been compressed together, all they saw was a jumble of arms and legs, just motionlessly sticking out. In the first of many miracles, a player named Gustavo Zerbino had stood up during the crash and held on to the luggage rack above him just as the seat he was sharing with a friend zipped out of the hole behind. Zerbino was still standing, totally uninjured, when the plane came to a stop. And from his recollection, his first thought was that oh it's true that you can still think after you're dead.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

Yeah dude, that's what they're saying. It happened so fast and the shock is so intense. It's crazy because he literally just hung on for dear life.

MARCUS PARKS

Yeah.

ED LARSON

So fucking badass.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

Yeah, I know. It's fucking crazy.

ED LARSON

Just like a paraglider.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

We gotta work on that shit, dude. We gotta work on it because I can't really do many pull ups. I can pull myself up sorta. We gotta work on this, man.

MARCUS PARKS

But Gustavo was alive while everyone and everything behind him had completely disappeared into the mountains. And all seven people had been sucked out of the back of the airplane and fallen to their deaths when the tail of the airplane had been severed. Later some of these corpses would be found still strapped into their seats and one would be found burned to a crisp because he had been ignited by engine fuel mid air. Fortunately for everyone who survived though, Gustavo Zerbino was a first year medical student. So he began checking pulses.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

Yeah, he became doctor of the crew.

MARCUS PARKS

Yeah. Well he became one of the two doctors of the crew because in another piece of luck, the first living person Zerbino found was Roberto Canessa, who was a second year medical student. This also saved fucking everyone.

ED LARSON

Yeah.

MARCUS PARKS

They got to work freeing more people. But before long they became acutely aware of the scent of fuel. In fact survivor Roy Harley was completely blue because he was covered in airplane fuel. And to make matters worse for Roy, this was his first time on an airplane.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

Let's just say next time let's take a bus.

MARCUS PARKS

But it's also not uncommon in South America at all to fly between cities and to fly in between countries.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

Yeah of course. Like puddle jumpers.

MARCUS PARKS

Because it's through the mountains.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

Yeah.

MARCUS PARKS

It's very common.

ED LARSON

Because you're not walking, you're not bussing, there's no roads especially back then.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

Not through those huge mountain ranges like that, you have to find them.

ED LARSON

Yeah.

MARCUS PARKS

But once they smelled fuel, those who were free fled the wrecked fuselage thinking that it might blow at any second. That however is when they realized just how much trouble they were really in.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

Yeah, they didn't realize they were trouble before. Now they're in more trouble.

MARCUS PARKS

Yeah. See since all this occurred in the southern hemisphere, their seasons are switched. So October in this section of the Andes still had a month and a half of winter to go with all of the blizzards and dangers that went along with that. Conversely, the winters in Uruguay and Chile are relatively mild. So most of the passengers were in t-shirts. At most, some were wearing blazers. So the passengers weren't even prepared for a chilly fall day, much less an environment where it was 10 below zero.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

God.

MARCUS PARKS

Those who ran out of the plane found themselves thigh deep in snow, facing a cold that was so brutal, and this is what scares me, this is how Nando Parrado put it, how he explained it. The cold penetrated the bones and scalded the skin as if it was acid, making each moment seem to last an eternity.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

Not good.

MARCUS PARKS

Yeah.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

Send me to Miami. I don't want to be here.

MARCUS PARKS

No, they said that there was at one point like one of the guys had a watch and they would ask him like hey, what time is it? And he'd tell them and they'd feel like hours had gone by, hours upon hours upon hours. And they'd say like okay, hey, what time is it? And two minutes would have passed.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

Yeah, very, very bad.

ED LARSON

Damn.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

I don't like the cold.

MARCUS PARKS

To make matters worse, and that's a phrase I'm gonna use a lot over the next two episodes-

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

Just keeps happening, man.

MARCUS PARKS

This winter in the Andes had been the most severe on record, below their feet was 100 ft of snow and more would come soon enough. Now the first person to take control of the situation was team captain Marcelo Perez.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

And this is one of those things I find interesting about humanity in general is that he was just the captain of the rugby team. But it's interesting how when you're young-

ED LARSON

Yeah.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

You fall into these like prescribed roles almost in a way, where you're like well he's captain.

MARCUS PARKS

Yeah.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

So let's just follow what the captain says. And he just like got everybody in order in the very beginning.

ED LARSON

I remember one time I was on a Greyhound bus that got stuck in the snow and I like became the captain of the bus.

MARCUS PARKS

I see that. I can see that, yeah.

ED LARSON

Just like immediately I was like all right!

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm captain of the bus!

ED LARSON

I literally was like all right! Because our wheels were spinning, I'm like someone grab a rug, stick it under the wheel! I was like you guys get in the back and push. I mean we couldn't get out of there.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

No.

MARCUS PARKS

But you tried.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

You tried something.

ED LARSON

And the guy who kept snoring I wouldn't let go back to sleep.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

You wake up!

MARCUS PARKS

Well once it became apparent that the fuselage wasn't gonna explode, Marcelo got the other boys to work freeing those who weren't trapped underneath the seats. This introduced another problem because even though these boys were the best rugby team in Uruguay, they struggled for every breath in the thin mountain air. But as they found more people, they realized just how badly some of them were hurt. Nando Parrado's sister for example had blood pouring from her head and blood pouring out of one of her eyes. While Nando himself was seemingly near death, his head had swollen to the size of a basketball.

ED LARSON

That's because he was full of himself.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

He's our hero! He's our guy! Nando's our fucking, he's a G, dude.

ED LARSON

I take it back, Nando. I'm sorry.

MARCUS PARKS

So Nando was carried along with the other severely injured passengers to the back of the plane basically to die. Nando had also brought along his mother who'd been one of the four crushed to death in the crash.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

Yeah, he brought his whole family on that one little flight.

MARCUS PARKS

The most incredible survivor was a player named Enrique Platero who approached med student Gustavo Zerbino and pointed towards his torso.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

You know it doesn't hurt here so much or here so much but it hurts like right here.

MARCUS PARKS

He had a steel tube sticking out of his stomach.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

What do I do with this? I have a handle now.

MARCUS PARKS

Knowing that a doctor had to instill confidence in his patient, Gustavo told Enrique you're all right.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

You're gonna be alright.

MARCUS PARKS

You're fine.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

Don't worry, buddy.

MARCUS PARKS

And surprisingly Enrique took Gustavo at his word. But when Enrique turned away, Gustavo grabbed the steel tube and just yanked it out and brought six inches of intestine along with it.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

Yeah, not good.

MARCUS PARKS

The other med student, Roberto Canessa, quickly tucked the intestines back inside the wound and wrapped the injury with a rugby jersey. Gustavo then told Enrique that you're not doing great.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

Something that's inside of you is outside you. And a lot of times we don't like that, right. Unless it's shit, cum, or piss, which we love. But if it's your intestine, if it's a part of the infrastructure... But apparently you can just live like that.

MARCUS PARKS

Yeah. Because that's the thing, he told him, he's like hey, you're not doing great but there's a lot of people worse off than you. So I need your help.

ED LARSON

So I'm guessing the intestines didn't rip as much as they just got yanked out a little bit.

MARCUS PARKS

I mean I'm sure they got nicked.

ED LARSON

Yeah.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

Yeah, it's not good.

MARCUS PARKS

Yeah. So moments after his intestines had been stuffed back into his body, Enrique bucked up, did what he was told, and started helping whoever he could.

ED LARSON

Fuck yeah, man. Rugby.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

Yeah man. And to get his cardio up, he'd let out a length of it and he'd just starting jumping intestine, yeah, just to kind of work up. The entire time they would have hours counting his jumps.

MARCUS PARKS

Now a lot of survivors only had minor injuries but those who had broken legs or injured arms were sent outside to plunge their limbs into the snow to help with the pain and prevent swelling.

ED LARSON

I'm gonna dip my balls in it.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

Perfect statement.

MARCUS PARKS

The only woman to survive the crash without injuries was Liliana Methol. I think it's Methol. Yeah, it's a difficult name. There's a fair amount of difficult names.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

Methol.

MARCUS PARKS

Methol.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

Yes.

MARCUS PARKS

Yeah. But her husband Javier had survived as well. Tragically they were just fans of the team who decided to pair the exhibition match with a nice romantic vacation in Santiago.

ED LARSON

Nothing gets me horny like a bunch of scrumbags.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

Yeah, that's my favorite, roll around with that big old ball.

MARCUS PARKS

But unlike the others, Javier immediately succumbed to altitude sickness and was vomiting and extremely dizzy as a result. This condition would not change for a long, long time.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

I was trying to look that up about does your body get used to certain things? Because I guess you can get sort of used to altitude sickness. But my main thing was about sunburn. I've always wondered this and I really haven't found any direct sort of information about it. But the idea of like your body could eventually get used to the sun coverage.

MARCUS PARKS

Yeah.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

And then even if you're like super fair, you get burnt time and time again, eventually you do get tan but it's like I guess your chances of getting cancer is like 30% more or whatever. I'm not sure.

MARCUS PARKS

Yeah, it's gonna be bad. But the person who was in worse shape than anyone else out of the ones who had technically survived was Graziela Mariani, who was on her way to her daughter's wedding in Santiago. She'd been crushed by the seats, yes, but she had survived. Her chest was pressed against her knees and both of her legs had been broken when the seats crumpled together. The tangled mess of metal made it impossible to free or even move her. So all they could do was wait for her to die as she screamed in agony. But then the survivors heard moans from the cockpit where they discovered that the copilot had survived. Both him and the pilot had been pinned by the instrument panel when the nose of the plane crumpled and he was definitely gonna die, the pilot's already dead. But the copilot was at the very least conscious. And so after they removed the cushion from his seat back to relieve some of the pressure, he managed to give them an important albeit incorrect piece of information.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

He should have just said nothing. He should have just been like (whispering) the combination of the safe... Like it could have been anything else.

MARCUS PARKS

Tell me, where is he? Where is he?

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

Where is he? Who do you work for?

MARCUS PARKS

He's in the...

ED LARSON

Goddamn you, Dick Tracy.

MARCUS PARKS

Well he told them that they'd passed Curico. But now as we said, they'd never gone far enough west to pass that town. But it was possible that the copilot's inexperience meant that he took the pilot's word for it when he'd radioed the transmission saying that they had in fact passed the town to air traffic control. Or he might have also thought yeah, we passed it. But none of the survivors had any reason to doubt the copilot. So they operated on the assumption that they were much further west than they actually were the rest of their ordeal. The copilot of course didn't last the night but he did ask for one thing from his flight pack. He wanted his gun so he could end his life quickly. But the survivors figured they had other priorities.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

I liked in the scene in Alive where they're like I will not be involved in this.

MARCUS PARKS

Yeah. And then they just leave.

ED LARSON

So there was a gun amongst them?

MARCUS PARKS

No. Thankfully no one found the weapon. I can only imagine what kind of shenanigans would have gone on if there was a-

ED LARSON

That would have ruined everything.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

Oh yeah, man.

MARCUS PARKS

If there was a gun in the mix?

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

Shoot the mountain! That's what I would have been like.

MARCUS PARKS

Now once the situation had been fully assessed to the best of their abilities, team captain Marcelo Perez began to realize that they were at best lightly fucked.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

Lightly fucked? I don't know, buddy. I've been lightly fucked before and it's nice.

MARCUS PARKS

But that's the thing, I think that people use the term fucked way too often because for me like fucked is like things are... I might die.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

They're fucked.

MARCUS PARKS

But this is lightly fucked. Let's say relatively speaking lightly fucked. Since they crashed at 3:30 pm, nobody would realize they were missing until 4. And no helicopter could fly through the Andes at night. That meant that everyone would have to spend at least one night in subzero temperatures wearing light summer clothing with no coats or blankets. The best they could do to protect themselves from the elements was to build a wall of suitcases, airplane fragments, and loose seats to block the open end of the fuselage. Once that was done, the survivors took full account of who lived, who died, and who was near death. Five had died instantly when the plane crashed and two had died soon after. So those that could be reached were removed from the plane and laid outside face down in the snow. Eight more passengers were simply gone, having been sucked out of the plane while it was still in the air. One person had actually survived the fall but when the survivors spotted him walking on a mountain slope a few 100 yards away and yelled out, he turned around, stumbled, fell down, and was never seen again.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

I don't wanna die like Mr. Bean.

ED LARSON

Imagine living through that and then just tripping.

MARCUS PARKS

And then you go whoop!

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

That's how thin life is and our chances are.

MARCUS PARKS

Yeah, it's all just a-

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

Crap-shoot.

MARCUS PARKS

Yeah.

ED LARSON

So the middle of the plane is the safest place to be.

MARCUS PARKS

Yeah. Middle of the plane.

ED LARSON

So everyone who like fought for first class died.

MARCUS PARKS

Yep.

ED LARSON

And then everyone who was stuck in the back got sucked out.

MARCUS PARKS

next to the toilet things got worse, yeah.

ED LARSON

All right, middle from now on.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

Always.

ED LARSON

Yeah.

MARCUS PARKS

But despite the severity of the crash, 32 people were still alive when the sun set on October 13th, 1972.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

(hums Friday the 13th theme)

ED LARSON

Mama!

MARCUS PARKS

Now remember, this was a relatively small chartered plane that only held 45 people and quite a bit of the cabin had been sliced off in the air. That left a space 20 ft long from the pilot's cabin to the rear fuselage hole and 8 ft across from window to window. Small space. And this was their only shelter. Smartly, those with relatively minor injuries decided that those with the lowest chance of survival would be placed near the suitcase wall where it was coldest. This practical decision however would inadvertently save the life of the man who would help save them all. If you'll remember, Nando Parrado's head was swollen to frightening proportions and his skull had been thoroughly cracked during the crash landing.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

Maybe I'm getting smarter.

MARCUS PARKS

But since he was sent to the coldest part of the plane, his brain did not swell and therefore he did not die.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

Is that real?

MARCUS PARKS

That's real. They actually use that now as a treatment. I saw an actual doctor-

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

They just put his head on ice?

ED LARSON

Walt Disney him!

MARCUS PARKS

In one of the documentaries I saw they talked to a doctor like actually today this is what we use partly to help people whose brains are swelling. Additionally a teammate decided on that first night to pull him just a little closer towards the mass of body heat and the balance of warmth and cold saved Nando's life and essentially saved them all. Now eventually Roberto Canessa, the other man who would take the final expedition with Nando, realized that the cloth covering from the seats could be unzipped and used as makeshift blankets.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

These guys were crafty as all hell.

MARCUS PARKS

They were.

ED LARSON

You turn crafty real fast.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

Oh yeah.

MARCUS PARKS

Yeah.

ED LARSON

Your brain just starts changing.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

I still feel like I'd die just from sheer I don't wanna.

ED LARSON

Yeah. We were talking about we probably would just straight up suffocate because of how much weed we smoke and stuff.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.

MARCUS PARKS

Yeah.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

Just from the lack of oxygen.

ED LARSON

Yeah.

MARCUS PARKS

But while the covers were made from nothing more than thin nylon, they still heavily contributed to the survival of the passengers when it came to retaining body heat during the sub zero nights. And here in a bit, I'll get to why weed smoking wouldn't have had any bearing whatsoever on your survival chances.

ED LARSON

All right, thank god. All right, keep doing it.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

Yeah, cool. Yeah, sweet.

ED LARSON

Thank god they already loved hugging each other, all these rugby guys.

MARCUS PARKS

Yeah, yeah.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

That's the thing, you better be already used to horseplay and grabass especially when it can save your life.

MARCUS PARKS

Yeah. Pretty soon though the shock of the crash wore off and the panic set in. Almost everyone complained, argued, and raved throughout the night. Everyone's trying to one up each other when it comes to whose injuries were the worst. But the most terrible element was the woman who was still folded under the seats with two broken legs.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

Yeah because she's just like you guys think your shit sucks?! I'm a human accordion!

MARCUS PARKS

She screamed throughout the night and only shrieked louder when anyone approached her to help. Strangely this was the reaction that a few of the injured had that night, maybe as like a sort of haywired survival mechanism. In one case the plane's mechanic began to believe that one of the rugby players was trying to kill him. And when the player approached him, the mechanic screamed that he wanted the player to show him his papers. And then he asked him to identify himself. Identify yourself! Identify yourself! I think it is some sort of survival thing where it's like if anyone comes near me, they are going to kill me.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

But you've lost your mind.

ED LARSON

Meanwhile he's already asked everyone to kill him.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

Yeah.

MARCUS PARKS

No, this is just the mechanic.

ED LARSON

Oh the mechanic.

MARCUS PARKS

Yeah, the mechanic. Yeah. You know there's always a guy who goes a little loopy?

ED LARSON

Yeah.

MARCUS PARKS

The mechanic was the one who went a little loopy.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

Yeah. I feel that that's a process of shock wearing off sometimes.

MARCUS PARKS

Yeah. And all the while the woman stuck in the seats continued to scream. Finally someone lost their temper and told her that if she didn't shut up, he'd come over there and smash her face in. He later regretted that statement.

ED LARSON

I mean you need that to stop.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

Yeah.

ED LARSON

I hate to be that.

MARCUS PARKS

This of course caused her to scream even louder.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

Yeah, yeah.

ED LARSON

Fuck!

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

It didn't work.

MARCUS PARKS

And that was mixed with repeated requests from the pilot for someone to find his gun.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

Man, he's still alive.

MARCUS PARKS

Yeah.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

Alive!

MARCUS PARKS

As one player put it, the night was comparable to Dante's hell. And by the time the sun rose the next morning, four more people were dead. But mixed in with the panic and horror were bizarre moments of shock. At one point in the night, even through the screaming, one player stood up and told everyone hey, I'm gonna go to the store and grab a coke, anybody want anything? And one of the guys like responded and said like yeah, grab me a mineral water while you're at.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

It actually reminds me a lot of the Dyatlov Pass story. Maybe one day we'll do a big update on it because there's been new stuff that's come out about it.

MARCUS PARKS

Yeah.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

I don't know if I'm even saying it correct.

MARCUS PARKS

I think it's Dyatlov.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

Dyatlov?

MARCUS PARKS

I mean if anything so people could fucking stop yelling that I kept saying it wrong.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

Yeah, yeah. I said we could change it. We can change the past. But the idea of that kind of hallucinatory part of being super cold and panicked.

MARCUS PARKS

Now while most of the survivors were hesitant to even open their eyes and face the situation when the sun came up, team captain Marcelo Perez continued his established role as the leader and got people to work.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

Burpees do incredible things.

MARCUS PARKS

One night of mass panic was all they allowed themselves. And while the panic would come in fits and starts, the survivors quickly realized that if they let the panic take over, all of them would die. First the four who had died in the night were removed from the plane. But when they tried removing the penned woman who they thought was dead, she screamed again but finally died later that morning. Wounds were then cleaned, dressings were changed, and instructions were given to the injured who could take care of themselves. For example the guy whose intestines had popped out, he had his wound disinfected with cologne and was told that if anything popped out again, just pop it back in.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

Hey, at least he's gonna fucking live being sexy.

ED LARSON

So not to be totally brutal and horrible, like you gotta kill that woman, right? Like she's gonna die. It's just bringing down morale.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

There is a stripe through all of the survivors where they talk about they're pretty religious.

ED LARSON

Yeah.

MARCUS PARKS

They're very Catholic, very Catholic.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

Very. It's embedded in. So a lot of them had to figure out a way of how to... Obviously later on what they ende dup kind of, not mental gymnastics but sort of the theistic math, they had to figure out how to handle the quote unquote "cannibalism". But in terms of killing someone, I think that they were not ready to do it. They're all young boys.

ED LARSON

Yeah.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

These are all these young guys, they don't wanna kill anybody.

MARCUS PARKS

No.

ED LARSON

See I'm more likely to kill someone 20 years ago than I am now.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

Dead.

MARCUS PARKS

Well these guys, some of them at least-

ED LARSON

They're good guys.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

They're good guys.

MARCUS PARKS

They're good guys.

ED LARSON

Yeah.

MARCUS PARKS

And some of them are like so Catholic, when it came to figuring out whether or not they were gonna eat people, some of them said to themselves if I don't eat them it's akin to suicide because I can survive and I'm choosing not to. So if I commit suicide, if I don't eat this person, that I'm gonna go to hell.

ED LARSON

Wow.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

Yeah, it's intense.

ED LARSON

At least get some warmth.

MARCUS PARKS

Yeah. Well after... Oh, in hell.

ED LARSON

Yes.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

This is actually kinda nice down here.

MARCUS PARKS

Well after the wounded were taken care of, the empty suitcases were arranged into a cross so the rescue helicopters they were all banking on could see them. Because they very quickly realized that a white fuselage laying on white snow would be impossible to see. But even though they figured rescue was coming either that day or the next, they still accounted for what food they had. In all, this is it. They had eight chocolate bars, five nougat bars, an assortment of caramels, dates, and prunes, a tin of salted biscuits, two tins of mussels, a tin of salted almonds, and a few small jars of jam.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

So you mean to tell me they had a year's worth of girl dinner?

MARCUS PARKS

When it came to beverages, they'd already drained two of the five bottles of wine that survived the crash. But they still had a bottle of whiskey, a bottle of cherry brandy, and a bottle of creme de menthe.

ED LARSON

No water.

MARCUS PARKS

No water.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

No water.

MARCUS PARKS

None.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

But hey, guess what they're surrounded by? Snow.

MARCUS PARKS

Yeah. They only has liquor left. But while the hope of a quick rescue was the general consensus, team captain Marcelo Perez insisted on rationing just in case, giving everyone just a square of chocolate and a deodorant cap full of wine. Now seeing as how they only had a relatively small amount of liquid for 28 people, their immediate danger was death by dehydration.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

No, but the snow!

MARCUS PARKS

Technically they are surrounded by fresh water.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

Yeah, snow!

MARCUS PARKS

It's frozen water.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

Yeah, you gotta do something with it.

MARCUS PARKS

The problem with eating snow is that it cracks your lips, cuts up your mouth, and quickly causes sores to develop.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

Man, what the fuck? So you can't blow Frosty the Snowman? Yeah, that's what he says, that.

MARCUS PARKS

This was even more of an issue because the higher a person goes in the air, the more water they need. At their height in the Andes, their bodies dehydrated five times faster than normal because of the oxygen levels in the atmosphere. This is why mountain climbers carry small gas stoves so they can easily melt snow and drink the requisite amount of water. Mountain climbers are almost constantly drinking water on their way up.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

Man, there was this guy named Ueli Steck that I got into, he's this dude who's an alpinist. So he runs mountains and he just runs up this crazy fucking shit. And he doesn't bring anything.

MARCUS PARKS

Yeah.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

He doesn't bring... And it's scary. Because he's like I travel fast enough, I do not need to drink, I do not need your waters. And you're like what? What the fuck, dude? You gotta be careful. Watch that Race to the Summit documentary, that's wild, dog.

MARCUS PARKS

Hell yeah. Well eventually though a player named Adolfo Strauch, Fito to his friends, came up with an ingenious solution. Well as a bit of a side quest, perhaps not surprisingly, Adolfo Strauch's family was from Germany. And while I don't know this for sure, I'd imagine the Strauches, who again named their son Adolfo, I'd imagine they arrived in Uruguay sometime in the mid 1940s.

ED LARSON

Whoa!

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

I think that maybe due to some of his genetics, he'd be very good at keeping things (German accent) in order.

MARCUS PARKS

We do talk in our Krautrock series about the wonders of German engineering. Additionally Adolfo and his cousin Eduardo Strauch, they were both blonde and Adolfo was nicknamed the German.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

(German accent) I just feel like if we got together, we could figure out some kind of final solution to this issue.

ED LARSON

Adolfo!

MARCUS PARKS

No, they called him Fito.

ED LARSON

Yeah.

MARCUS PARKS

Fito!

ED LARSON

That's good.

MARCUS PARKS

Yeah, that's better.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

(German accent) Ja.

MARCUS PARKS

It kind of tells me that people were uncomfortable calling him Adolfo.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

(German accent) Do you have a problem with my name? What does it remind you of? Something bad?

ED LARSON

(German accent) I hate up here, I can't keep my mustache short.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

(German accent) Short enough. I hate having a full beard that hides my most stellar leader like mustache.

MARCUS PARKS

That's another crazy fucking thing about the movie Alive. Ethan Hawke, he plays Nando-

ED LARSON

Yeah.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

Very much.

MARCUS PARKS

Trimmed goatee the entire movie.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

He refused to grow a beard.

MARCUS PARKS

Yes, he refused to grow a beard.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

Yeah, I read about that.

MARCUS PARKS

Or even put a fake beard on.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

Yeah, he's sexy.

MARCUS PARKS

Yeah, he said no, I must keep my sexy Ethan Hawke goatee.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

I'm Ethan Hawke. I have a goatee. It's Ethan Hawke, Guy Fieri, the guy from Pawn Stars. These are famous goatees.

MARCUS PARKS

But regardless of lineage, Adolfo realized they could melt snow by taking aluminum from the wreckage to make somewhat of a hot plate that could be warmed by the sun.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

(German accent) Yes. Yes, most ingenious.

MARCUS PARKS

The melted snow would then funnel into a wine bottle. And while it didn't produce enough water to keep everyone comfortable, it did hydrate them enough to stay-

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

Alive! (German accent) Just remember each sip as you take, you can thank the Nazis. Thank you?

MARCUS PARKS

I'd argue that you thank the Allies for driving the Nazis to South America.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

Exactly! Reason for the season.

MARCUS PARKS

Now to keep everyone distracted and occupied while they waited for rescue, Marcelo Perez split the survivors into teams. One would be in charge of medical needs, another would keep the cabin clean and orderly, while the last would make water. But while water seemed like it was the easiest job, it was also one of the dirtiest because they had to find snow that wasn't polluted by blood, human waste, or airplane oil. It also came with its own challenges because they had to venture further away from the plane in thigh deep snow. Now on the third day everyone was starting to get a little nervous.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

Yeah.

ED LARSON

Yeah.

MARCUS PARKS

Because there was no sign of rescue. But that was also the day that Nando Parrado woke up from his mini coma, having no idea what happened. After he weakly asked where he was, someone bent down and whispered into his ear.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

(whispering) Hey buddy, I just want you to know. Hey, okay. So like things aren't super chill, okay. We're not at the game right now. We're in the top of a mountain.

ED LARSON

(whispering) But you scored all he points.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

(whispering) You scored all the points, you're number one. You're the number one guy.

ED LARSON

(whispering) Your head's turning into a rugby ball.

MARCUS PARKS

Yeah, but then he was told his mother was dead.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

Ah.

MARCUS PARKS

And then he was told his sister was dying. And instinctively Nando then reached for the wound on his head and pressed it, making himself gag when he felt the spongy sensation of shattered bone pressing against his brain.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

God. Because your brain, I mean how does it feel? Sidestorieslpotl@gmail.com. Can you actually do that? Because your brain doesn't have nerves, it's the stuff around the brain. Am I correct?

MARCUS PARKS

I think so.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

I might be just talking out of my ass.

MARCUS PARKS

I wouldn't say... Yeah, because yeah, because remember in Hannibal when Ray Liotta at the very end-

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

I remember Hannibal.

MARCUS PARKS

He's sitting there and Hannibal's eating his brains and Ray Liotta's still going blah, blah, blah.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

Yeah. You know what? That is fact.

MARCUS PARKS

But shortly after Nando woke up, the survivors finally saw a plane flying overhead and saw another a few hours later, then another. And these were the search planes that had been sent out to find at least the wreckage. And some of the survivors maintained that one of the planes had tipped its wing to signal that they'd seen them. But despite all their efforts, including riding SOS on the fuselage with lipstick and nail polish, it was impossible to spot the location that was rapidly becoming a hellish existence that would last far longer than anyone expected. Now after they realized it was likely that no one was coming, some of the survivors wanted to make an expedition to find civilization. But due to the copilot's statement that they had passed Curico, they were operating on faulty information.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

It is worse that he told them where they were not.

MARCUS PARKS

Yes. Additionally the altimeter in the is a shit Fairchild aircraft gave the wrong reading. It read 7000 ft which made the survivors assume that they were on the western foothills of the Andes. They thought they were much closer to Chile than they actually were. In reality they were deep in the mountain range at almost twice that altitude. To make matters worse, walking in the snow was, as I said, extraordinarily difficult in their weakened condition, which made a trek even a few dozen yards away from the fuselage an incredible effort.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

But this is also why when you jog in the wintertime you burn more calories.

ED LARSON

Interesting.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

Yeah, because your body's trying to keep you warm.

MARCUS PARKS

Yep. But again, Adolfo figured out that they could use seat cushions tied to their boots as snowshoes.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

(German accent) One more thank you to the fatherland. You can all remember who did this.

MARCUS PARKS

I mean maybe his parents weren't fleeing Nazis, maybe.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

Maybe Adolfo from Uruguay-

MARCUS PARKS

Well the reason why the Germans went to South America, we learned in the Mengele series, is because there were already a lot of Germans there.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

Yes.

MARCUS PARKS

So it's possible.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

It's very possible.

MARCUS PARKS

Maybe Adolfo was a family name.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

Maybe he's just a fantastic.

MARCUS PARKS

Yeah maybe.

ED LARSON

But he was younger than WWII. And his parents still named him after Hitler.

MARCUS PARKS

Yeah.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

Well I think it's different.

MARCUS PARKS

Maybe, I don't know. We don't know if his parents named him after Hitler.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

We don't know.

ED LARSON

It's the same name.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

It's a popular name.

ED LARSON

They put 'O' on it because your live in South America.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

It was a popular name and things changed over time.

MARCUS PARKS

And also Adolfo in Latin American countries, it doesn't have the same connotations as like Adolf does here in the rest of the world.

ED LARSON

Yeah, they loved it.

MARCUS PARKS

Well Adolfo's cousin Eduardo Strauch, who also was quite crafty, he made sunglasses to protect the survivors from snow blindness by cutting the sun visors in the cockpit and stringing them together with copper wire. But even though they were figuring things out, the situation still wildly swung from getting better to getting worse.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

It was always getting worse because the only way to get better it's not be there anymore.

ED LARSON

Yeah.

MARCUS PARKS

It's degrees. I argue it's degrees. On one hand, Nando's sister finally succumbed to her injuries and died in his arms on the eighth day. The people who were really hurt were starting to die. But on the other hand, some of the people who had injuries that seemed fatal were starting to heal and they were therefore able to help.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

It's about being young.

MARCUS PARKS

Yeah.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

It really is about being young.

ED LARSON

Man, eight days it took for her to die.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

Yeah.

MARCUS PARKS

Yeah.

ED LARSON

That's so awful.

MARCUS PARKS

And eight days conscious too.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

Very bad.

MARCUS PARKS

Like she was conscious, yeah. She would go in and out of consciousness but just begging for help.

ED LARSON

Honestly thank god Nando was there.

MARCUS PARKS

Yeah.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

Yeah.

MARCUS PARKS

Yeah. And that's what he said too.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

Yeah, I was glad. He said he was glad.

MARCUS PARKS

Yeah. That left only two with truly serious wounds. And I'm gonna do the best I can with these names here. Arturo Nogueira and Rafael Echavarren. Best I can. Both had serious leg injuries, so Roberto fashioned hammocks that hung above the rest of the survivors inside the fuselage. The trade off was that their wounds wouldn't be stepped on because that was a constant problem. But they were colder at night because they didn't have the warmth of the other bodies. But even still, Rafael began every morning by yelling, "I am Rafael Echavarren! And I will not die here!"

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

Alive!

ED LARSON

I mean that's fucking awesome.

MARCUS PARKS

No, it was inspired everyone every fucking morning. Like yeah!

ED LARSON

Yeah.

MARCUS PARKS

Until of course Rafael died there.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's what's hard.

ED LARSON

Oh yeah. He became the worst rooster of all time.

MARCUS PARKS

But he lasted a long time. He lasted well over a month. Both of the guys did.

ED LARSON

That's so impressive.

MARCUS PARKS

Yeah. Another source of morale was Gustavo Nicolich. This would be you, Coco.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

The funny guy.

MARCUS PARKS

The funny guy. He was the head of the cleanup crew, he told jokes and stories, he led them in games of charades to keep their spirits up as much as he could amidst the terror and misery.

ED LARSON

Lose, lose, or draw.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

Yeah exactly.

MARCUS PARKS

Well eventually they even had inside jokes, they'd make light of the situation. Eventually that would come later.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

Yeah of course they would figure out.

MARCUS PARKS

Yeah.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

Because the human spirit does seem to enjoy a couple of gallows humor style interactions.

ED LARSON

How could you not?

MARCUS PARKS

It was a lot of gallows humor amongst these guys.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

You've got to, you have to laugh.

MARCUS PARKS

Yeah.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

Cause if not you're literally just going to... What happened to the Donner party. You become a crawling group of mountain creatures.

ED LARSON

This show is proof that gallows humor is great.

MARCUS PARKS

Of course. And that's how these guys fucking survive. Yeah, you are correct. Yeah because the Donner party was definitely like just fuckin ghosts, living ghosts.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

They were regular people by the time they even, not to spoil, but the time they survived, they were still kinda normal. Whereas at the end of the Donner party everyone's like (growling).

MARCUS PARKS

Well these guys were kinda normal.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

Yeah, sure, sure. It was traumatizing.

MARCUS PARKS

Yeah, they were traumatized. Like for some of the guys for a little while afterwards, like if they were eating and anyone came near their food, they'd be like get the fuck away from me!

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

Oh I understand.

MARCUS PARKS

It's natural.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

I'm kind of like that now.

MARCUS PARKS

But from most accounts, what these guys said, the first 10 days were the hardest of the entire experience, partly because no one knew what the fuck to do.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

Yeah.

MARCUS PARKS

And so as the first 10 days dragged on, the situation got more desperate. The only things they had to burn was whatever happened to be on the plane. And after all the wood was gone from just two fires, they burned $7000 in cash for just the slightest warmth.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

And if that ain't a sign, that's like symbolic.

MARCUS PARKS

Yeah. Just like what really matters.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

Yes.

MARCUS PARKS

Most of them however had lighters and a shitload of cigarettes. See Chile had a cigarette shortage and most of the people on board were smokers. So they'd brought literally thousands of cigarettes for a five day trip.

ED LARSON

Thank god.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

Yeah.

MARCUS PARKS

Yeah.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

It gives you something to do.

MARCUS PARKS

Yeah.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

You're wearing a nicotine patch right now.

MARCUS PARKS

Right now.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

And it's beautiful here.

MARCUS PARKS

I quit eight years ago. No, now it's almost 10 when I quit smoking cigarettes.

ED LARSON

Wow.

MARCUS PARKS

I'm still wearing step two.

ED LARSON

I hope none of these guys ever quit cigarettes.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

No.

ED LARSON

I hope they still smoke them today.

MARCUS PARKS

I hope so too. And I mean because that's the thing, I used to always smoke just because I was bored and nervous.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

It gave you a thing to do.

MARCUS PARKS

Yeah. And a lot of these guys chain smoked to the point where they had to ration everyone to half a pack a day. And even then some of them went beyond that and begged the others to share.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

Which is probably why we could have survived.

MARCUS PARKS

Yeah.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

In terms of lung capacity. Again, they're young.

ED LARSON

Yeah.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

But still, they're sitting there smoking. All right.

MARCUS PARKS

But as far as I know they never ran out of cigarettes.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

Wow.

ED LARSON

That's fucking good for them.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

That's like Hanukkah.

ED LARSON

Yeah.

MARCUS PARKS

But the most pressing problem was of course food. After nine days, the food had all but run out and while the shock of the cold along with the fear and depression had curbed their hunger in the first week, survival instincts were starting to kick in.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

So this is where the anthropophagy started?

MARCUS PARKS

Just wait, just wait. By Nando's memory, the last real morsel of food he was given was near the end of the first week when the team captain handed him a single chocolate covered peanut, which Nando ate over three days.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

Like he was Bob Cratchit.

MARCUS PARKS

First it was the chocolate, then it was half the peanut, and then it was the other half of the peanut. Now after the food was gone, they tried eating strips of leather torn from luggage because they'd all heard shipwreck stories where sailors ate their boots.

ED LARSON

I totally would have tried to eat the leather.

MARCUS PARKS

Yep. The problem was that the leather was chemically treated. So eating it would have done far more harm than good.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

Yeah, it's not like back and it was pure leather.

MARCUS PARKS

No. But as Nando put it, there are some lines that the mind is very slow to cross. When the thought finally did occur to him, it was with an impulse so primitive that it shocked him. That impulse of course was the urge to consume human flesh. Now the idea first came to him when he was staring at the leg wound of a young man lying next to him. The center of the wound was moist and raw. And as Nando smelled the faint scent of blood, he very simply realized that hey, that's meat.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

I don't wanna get there, man.

MARCUS PARKS

No.

ED LARSON

Why not drink the blood?

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

It's bad for you.

MARCUS PARKS

I think drinking blood is bad for you. Because they had water.

ED LARSON

Oh you're right.

MARCUS PARKS

Yeah.

ED LARSON

All right, let them keep the blood.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

The blood is what makes the meat good.

MARCUS PARKS

Nando then looked up and saw that there were several others staring at the wound who obviously had the same idea. But even though they felt shame at first, Nando nor any of the others could deny that when they looked at human flesh, they now instinctively recognized it as food. It really is the Looney Tunes thing of like seeing the other guy on the shipwreck island turn into a turkey.

ED LARSON

Yeah.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

Because the biological imperative begins.

MARCUS PARKS

Yeah.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

Because your body wants to survive.

MARCUS PARKS

Yeah, it does.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

Your brain wants to survive.

MARCUS PARKS

Yeah, it's that hierarchy of needs. Your brain switches. Now out of all the survivors, Nando was the most driven. If you'll remember both his mother and his sister had died in the crash and he was determined that his father would not have three people to mourn instead of two. He was gonna get off that fucking mountain.

ED LARSON

See it's so cool because like it really could have just like sent him into like crazy depression.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

He could have fallen apart, yeah.

ED LARSON

Yeah.

MARCUS PARKS

No, no, he used it. And so Nando took his friend Carlitos aside and told him that there was food right in front of them if they were willing to go for it.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

We're gonna eat the airplane? We'll eat the mountain rock by rock and then we'll be on the flat land. No, Carlitos!

MARCUS PARKS

Nando first suggested the pilot because as Nando put it, he was the one who put them there so he could be the one to help them out.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

Yes.

ED LARSON

Fuck yeah.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

And you see a pilot would actually be pretty delicious because they keep in shape.

MARCUS PARKS

But not as much as the other guys. Pilot's not gonna be in as good a shape as a rugby player.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

No.

ED LARSON

You want a little fat.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

But he also might be drinking less and smoking less.

ED LARSON

Pilots get hammered.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

Oh I know.

MARCUS PARKS

Yeah dude, pilots are a bunch of filthy drunks.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

Sidestorieslpotl@gmail.com.

ED LARSON

Yeah. How often do you fly a plane drunk?

MARCUS PARKS

Well after listening to Nando's argument in silence, Carlitos finally admitted that my god, I've been thinking the same thing.

ED LARSON

Whoa.

MARCUS PARKS

And so after floating the idea to a few of the other guys over the next few days, they decided to call a meeting. Roberto Canessa took the lead and told the survivors that if they ever wanted to see their families again, they had no choice but to consume the flesh of the dead. And he was absolutely right in saying so, it was the only choice.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

Yeah.

MARCUS PARKS

Now some put up a fight and others refused outright but eventually the justification outside of pure survival of course came from the New Testament. One survivor claimed that he had prayed to god and god had answered with this:

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

He who eats of my flesh and drinks of my blood will have eternal life and I will resurrect him on the last day. Take and eat, this is my body.

ED LARSON

Yeah, all Catholics are cannibals.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

Yeah.

MARCUS PARKS

Yeah.

ED LARSON

They eat Jesus every fucking Sunday.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

We believe in transubstantiation.

MARCUS PARKS

That was their exact justification. We eat the body of Christ, so therefore we can eat the body of our friends.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

Yeah, Joe.

ED LARSON

The New Testament really is like the shitty sequel.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

Well it's the fucking... I view it as the Temple of Doom.

ED LARSON

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

MARCUS PARKS

And so it was decided that Roberto would take a piece of broken plastic from the windows of the fuselage and cut away the first pieces of meat. Y fue entonces cuando empezó el canibalismo.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

Okay.

ED LARSON

Marcuso.

MARCUS PARKS

O la antropofagia es que estamos siendo precisos.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

Ooh Spanish.

MARCUS PARKS

If we're being precise.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

So basically so that is when you just said in a sentence in Spanish that is when the cannibalism started. But you actually meant the anthropophagy.

MARCUS PARKS

If we're being precise.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

Cause we're being precise in Spanish. That's great.

MARCUS PARKS

I'm correct in any language.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

Sí.

MARCUS PARKS

So without a word, Roberto walked up to a body whose buttocks was protruding from the snow.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

Polish cemetery.

ED LARSON

I don't know about you boys but I've been staring at that.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

And they're like all right, Carlitos.

MARCUS PARKS

He knelt and without knowing whose body they were about to consume, cut into the frozen flesh. Finally he came away with 20 slivers the size of matchsticks and laid them out on the fuselage to dry in the sun. He picked up a sliver, put it in his mouth, and swallowed without chewing. The flesh was grayish white, tasteless, hard as wood, and so very cold. But before anyone else took a bite, they joined hands and pledged that if any one of them died, the rest would have permission to use their bodies as food. The only people who were off limits were Nando's mother and sister who ended up being the only corpses that were not completely consumed by the time the rescuers showed up. That rescue was still 62 days away.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

62 days.

ED LARSON

Why not cook them in cigarettes?

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

Because I feel like you didn't want to waste the cigarettes.

MARCUS PARKS

I feel like if I was on that mountain still as heavy of a smoker as I was and you gave me a choice and you said you can either have cooked flesh or cigarettes, choose.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

You would have chosen cigarettes.

ED LARSON

Yeah.

MARCUS PARKS

I would have chosen cigarettes. Every time.

ED LARSON

Really?

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

Yeah.

ED LARSON

That's why you're so thin.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

Yeah, it's true. But I chose fucking cigarettes over food in college all the time.

ED LARSON

Yeah.

MARCUS PARKS

Yeah, as did I. That's why I started Parliament Lights because they had that two for one deal. That's how they got all of us smoking.

ED LARSON

I chose sleep over food.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

Yeah, you taught me that skill.

ED LARSON

Yeah, yeah, yeah. When you're hungry, go to sleep.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

Yeah.

MARCUS PARKS

Now Nando said that once he had eaten he felt a small glimmer of hope for the first time since the crash. From that moment forward, things were actually easier in spite of the horror, if only because something had calmed their minds. They were no longer out of their minds with hunger. They could think for the first time.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

Yeah but this next part is the worst part.

MARCUS PARKS

Yeah.

ED LARSON

I think I'd rather eat my mother than a stranger.

MARCUS PARKS

But that's the thing, nobody was allowed to eat the mother.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

The mom was just like, I just feel like this is like an emotional line in the sand.

ED LARSON

But as far as like grossness goes, I would rather eat a family member than a stranger.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

I actually feel like technically it might be worse for you.

ED LARSON

Oh you think so?

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

I think it actually would be worse for you.

ED LARSON

Like incest in a weird way?

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

Yeah. I think it might be-

MARCUS PARKS

No, absolutely not.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

I think it might lead to more prion diseases. I do. I don't know. Maybe I'm wrong.

ED LARSON

What's a prion disease?

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

It's a thing that you can get from eating, it's a protein-based aberration. People get it from consuming certain parts, especially it can end up in your brains, it can end up in certain parts of your meat I believe.

MARCUS PARKS

No, I know because tomcats usually kill and eat the kittens that they are father to.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

That's tomcats.

MARCUS PARKS

They're able to eat the flesh of their offspring and that's fine.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

Sidestorieslpotl@gmail.com.

ED LARSON

Yeah.

MARCUS PARKS

I don't think it matters.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

I'm just wondering.

MARCUS PARKS

Emotionally it matters.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

I think emotionally, yeah, that's what it is.

ED LARSON

Emotionally. I'd much rather, yeah.

MARCUS PARKS

Eat your mom.

ED LARSON

Shout out.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

Yeah, How America Killed My Mother.

MARCUS PARKS

Now cutting meat from the dead was by far the most difficult and unpleasant job, while also being the most important. The trade off was that the butchers, for lack of a better word, got larger rations. A certain amount of pilfering was also allowed, say one piece in the mouth for every 10 pieces cut.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

One for you, two for me.

MARCUS PARKS

Guess who was the lead butcher?

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

Who?

MARCUS PARKS

It was Adolfo.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

Yeah.

ED LARSON

Oh yeah.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

(German accent) Yes, I would like to take the helm.

ED LARSON

(German accent) Interesting that we don't have any ovens but we still-

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

(German accent) I do like to see how they look very similar. Let's see if the insides of their butts are similar as well.

MARCUS PARKS

Now each corpse had to be dug out of the snow and thawed in the sun to be properly butchered. But since the cold had preserved the body so well, most, especially those crushed by the seats, were in horrifying poses.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

(German accent) Oh ho ho! You can't even believe how scary this face one is.

MARCUS PARKS

Yeah. And their eyes were still open much of the time.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

Ugh.

MARCUS PARKS

As far as how they did it, three survivors formed an assembly line of sorts to deal with the horror. Large pieces were cut off the bodies by the first guy, who then handed the chunks to another, who would then cut them into smaller pieces with razor blades. The further down one was on the assembly line, the easier it was to look at the human flesh as simply meat, which was a little easier for these guys because Uruguay is heavy on the beef.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

Oh yeah, a lot of South American cultures are heavy on the them grilled meats.

MARCUS PARKS

And so every day around noon, everyone was given roughly a handful of human flesh, about half a pound which had to be consumed raw because again there was nothing with which to make a fire. But since there were still quite a few people, almost every part of the body was eaten. The liver, heart, kidneys, and intestines were particularly important because they contained the most vitamins. But the line was drawn at the lungs, the skin, the heads, and the genitals.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

Yeah.

MARCUS PARKS

Or at least that's where the line was drawn at first.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

Because I wonder how you clean up the intestines. I wonder if you literally have to-

MARCUS PARKS

They squeeze them out.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

Yeah.

MARCUS PARKS

They did say specifically that they would squeeze out all of the intestines to get whatever-

ED LARSON

It's like deveining a shrimp.

MARCUS PARKS

God, I guess it is.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

God. It really is.

ED LARSON

I don't know why this surprisingly doesn't bother me at all.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

Yeah, it's cause you're a fucking cannibal. Because you've eaten a man, I'm certain you've eaten a man.

ED LARSON

I wish!

MARCUS PARKS

But since they had something substantial to eat, the survivors were now able to move beyond the mere act of basic survival. Searching through the wreckage, they found a small transistor radio. And after making an antenna out of copper wire, they were able to pick up Chilean stations. That unfortunately was how they got the worst news they could possibly get.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

They're doing a podcast on us.

MARCUS PARKS

Just as they were about to turn off the radio, they caught a news report saying that Chilean authorities had called off the efforts to find survivors of the lost Uruguayan charter flight that had disappeared in the Andes on October 13th.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

(hums Friday the 13th theme)

ED LARSON

So how many days in is this?

MARCUS PARKS

I don't know exactly how many days in this is. It's been between 10-14, I think.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

Yeah.

ED LARSON

So they started eating each other early.

MARCUS PARKS

Well no.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

It's because they ran out of food in 10 days. Once they ran out of food, that was like their issue.

MARCUS PARKS

Yeah.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

And then the cold, I believe it ramps up the effects of starvation as well.

MARCUS PARKS

It does.

ED LARSON

Yeah.

MARCUS PARKS

Yeah. They started eating bodies at 10 days because they ran completely out of food at like 8 or 9 days.

ED LARSON

Okay.

MARCUS PARKS

And they knew like if we don't eat, everyone's gonna die within like a day or two.

ED LARSON

Yeah.

MARCUS PARKS

Yeah. At most, maybe three days if they were lucky. Perhaps a little tastelessly, the station followed the report with a song called Volver which was sung by two singers who died in a plane crash in the Andes 37 years earlier.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

(singing) We are spinning into the clouds and we are dying! Everyone's eating their cousin. And it's just like I hate this song.

MARCUS PARKS

It was even more inappropriate considering that Volver is a beautiful albeit spicy tango. Now while Marcelo didn't want to tell the group because he thought it would destroy morale, Coco argued that it wouldn't be too bad just so long as they framed it correctly.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

See?

ED LARSON

Yeah.

MARCUS PARKS

So Coco sat everyone down and said, and he actually said this, "All right, everyone. Great news!"

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

Yay!

MARCUS PARKS

"Great news, they've called off the search."

ED LARSON

Boo!

MARCUS PARKS

Boo, Coco!

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

Boo you, Coco!

MARCUS PARKS

But after everyone cried how in the living fuck is that good news? Nando stepped in and said that it was in fact good news because they now knew exactly what to do. If they were gonna survive, they were gonna have to save themselves.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

Wow.

MARCUS PARKS

Ironically though the only person who had his morale destroyed by this was the very man who said that the announcement would destroy morale, team captain Marcelo Perez. His spirit was entirely broken by the news because he'd placed his faith in god to save them. And that faith had been misplaced. He was also the one who had put together the match, chartered the plane, hired the pilots, brought their families aboard.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

Yeah but he also blames himself and it's got nothing to do with you, man.

MARCUS PARKS

It's got nothing to do with you. But his spirit never recovered.

ED LARSON

Yeah, I imagine. Worst party ever.

MARCUS PARKS

Yeah.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

Yeah man, it's not fun.

MARCUS PARKS

Now once it was decided that they had to save themselves, they began small expeditions to test just how difficult it would be to get off the mountain. The first expedition of course almost resulted in the deaths of three survivors. After a single night, the explorers returned to the plane shattered by the elements. One had almost gone blind from the sun glare because his sunglasses broke, another felt his teeth coming loose from the first stages of frostbite, and all of them nearly lost their feet. The guy whose teeth were coming loose, this is like another fucking level of horror. One of the guys had to chew up human flesh and then baby bird it into the other guy's mouth.

ED LARSON

Wow.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

Oh man! That's a fucking bad job, dude. Ugh.

MARCUS PARKS

Yeah. But once they reported back what they'd found, it was nothing but bad news. First, they were totally fucked when it came to scaling the mountains. The slopes were far steeper than they seemed, every step was equal to 100 due to the thin air, and the cold in the fuselage was nothing compared to what they'd experienced out in the open at night. Lastly, one of the expeditioners said that when he looked down from the crash site from even just a few 100 yards away, they did not make it far, it was nothing more than an insignificant dot, meaning that rescue was without a doubt impossible unless they found a way off the mountain themselves.

ED LARSON

God, this is a nightmare.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

This whole thing is such a horrible fucking nightmare.

MARCUS PARKS

And of course things were about to get a lot worse.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

Yep.

MARCUS PARKS

In case you've forgotten, this was the Andes near the end of winter. That of course meant avalanches. And that's where we'll pick back up for part two of Survival in the Andes.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

(singing) I hear those sleigh bells jingling, ring-ting-tingling too. Come on it's lovely weather for a sleigh ride together with you.

MARCUS PARKS

(singing) Together with you.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

(singing) And you and you! This is a great Christmas story.

MARCUS PARKS

Yeah.

ED LARSON

Yeah.

MARCUS PARKS

I wanted to give everyone a winter wonderland.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

Yeah and we really did.

MARCUS PARKS

Yeah.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

Really frightening. And next week we're gonna get into the horrors of an avalanche. Not fun. Because it's also another thing that's very scary because there's nothing you can do.

ED LARSON

Yeah. You're supposed to spit, right?

MARCUS PARKS

Spit?

ED LARSON

Yeah.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

That's how you know if you're stuck inside the snow.

ED LARSON

Yeah, if your spit goes up, like up by your eyes, that means you're upside down.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

Yeah.

ED LARSON

If you're in an avalanche, the first thing you're supposed to do is you're supposed to spit.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

Either way, you're fucked.

ED LARSON

Yes, yes.

MARCUS PARKS

Oh yeah.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

It's not good. It's not good.

MARCUS PARKS

So if you spit and it goes down then you know which way to go.

ED LARSON

Yes.

MARCUS PARKS

You know which way to dig.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

Yeah, you know which way to go around.

MARCUS PARKS

Interesting.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

But guys, thank you so much. Yes, next week we're gonna complete this. I also wanna announce, number one it looks like our Classy Night Out show on the 22nd is sold out.

ED LARSON

Sold out.

MARCUS PARKS

Hey, that's great!

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

Can't wait to see you guys there, it's gonna be a lot of fun. I wanna do an announcement. I made an appearance on the Scream Dreams podcast as a guest with my friends Catherine Corcoran and Barbara Crampton. Barbara Crampton, horror icon.

MARCUS PARKS

Barbara Crampton.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

They're great, they're both honestly just a lot of fun, it's a really cool show, we had a good time talking about what makes people scared.

ED LARSON

Catherine's amazing. I interviewed her.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

Yes. Yes. She's great.

ED LARSON

Yeah, in the Sub-A-Thon.

MARCUS PARKS

Barbara Crampton from Reanimator, right?

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

Yes. She's incredible.

MARCUS PARKS

Icon.

ED LARSON

Very cool.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

So go check that out. And what you got?

ED LARSON

I'm gonna be opening, featuring for Jermaine Fowler on January 4th in Ontario.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

Oh, Onta-RIO?

ED LARSON

Ontario, California.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

Oh.

ED LARSON

Yes, yes, yes.

MARCUS PARKS

Oh good. Good, good, good. This is a real bad time to go to Ontario, Canada.

ED LARSON

Yeah, I'm not trying to go there. But in California, it's only like an hour east. So check us out there, that's gonna be a lot of fun. Jermaine and I, I'm gonna do like 20 minutes, Jermaine's gonna do an hour.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

That's so much fun.

ED LARSON

It's gonna be a lot of fun. Also I just wanna shout out Kenny DeForest.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

Oh our old buddy. We can talk, he got into a... It wasn't a car accident.

ED LARSON

It was a bicycle accident and he unfortunately passed away. He's an amazing comedian, one of the best friends of a lot of comedians. He has a GoFundMe up, it's sitting on my Instagram page, you can go there and send some money to his family if you want to. Or you know what? Go watch his stand up special on YouTube.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

Yeah.

MARCUS PARKS

Yeah.

ED LARSON

It's amazing, I really loved it, it's so funny. He was one of the funniest dudes I knew.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

And a good man, a very, very good man.

MARCUS PARKS

He was a great man.

ED LARSON

He was very close to Kevin Barnett, so it really hurts a lot. But go check out Don't You Know Who I Am? Kenny DeForest on YouTube.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

Yeah. He's great. Yeah, also sad to do this afterwards but also rent my movie How To Ruin The Holidays. I'm currently in a Christmas movie so go check that out, it's on Amazon.

ED LARSON

Yeah. And this show is actually ruining the holidays currently.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

It is, that's our goal. That's our goal. Fuck Christmas. And I hope that we have a happy new year.

MARCUS PARKS

I like Christmas.

ED LARSON

I love it.

MARCUS PARKS

Yeah.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

Good. I'm glad you both do. I'm glad. Hail Satan!

MARCUS PARKS

Hail Gein.

ED LARSON

Hail Henry.

MARCUS PARKS

Why?

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

That's very sweet.

MARCUS PARKS

No, no, no, no.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

It's not that you do that.

ED LARSON

Yeah.

MARCUS PARKS

Why?

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

It's nice that he did that.

ED LARSON

You'll get next week!

MARCUS PARKS

Okay, cool.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

It's nice that he did that.

MARCUS PARKS

Okay, as long as it's my turn next week, then I'm okay, then I'm fine with it.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

Hail me! I'm alive!

MARCUS PARKS

For now.

HENRY ZEBROWSKI

Fuck.